How to Shoot an Incomer
An incomer flies toward you. The straight version is the simplest target in the game — gun just under the line, soft focus between trap and gun, take it as it comes. The quartering incomers angle off to one side and need a touch more setup.
Straight incomer (either hand)
Toward you- Stance
- Pivoting leg (left, for a right-hander) oriented toward the trap.
- Gun position
- Just below the flying path of the bird.
- Waiting position
- ⅓ to ½ of the distance between trap and breaking spot.
- Head
- Parallel with the gun.
- Visual
- Between the trap and the gun (soft focus).
- Timing
- Low gun: start mounting once the bird leaves the trap. Premounted: start moving as the bird nears the gun.
Quartering incomer, Right-handed
Left → Right- Stance
- Pivoting leg oriented at the breaking spot.
- Gun position
- Just below the flying path of the bird.
- Waiting position
- ⅓ to ½ out from the trap (adjustable).
- Head
- Slightly turned left, or parallel to the gun.
- Visual
- Between the gun and the trap, close to the left side of the gun (soft focus).
- Timing
- Low gun: start mounting once the bird leaves the trap. Premounted: start moving as the bird nears the gun.
Quartering incomer, Right-handed
Right → Left- Stance
- Belly button toward the trap, pivoting leg (right) oriented ⅓ distance from the trap.
- Gun position
- Just below the flying path of the bird.
- Waiting position
- ⅓ to ½ out from the trap (adjustable).
- Head
- Natural.
- Visual
- Between the gun and the trap, close to the side of the gun (soft focus).
- Timing
- Low gun: start mounting once the bird leaves the trap. Premounted: start moving as the bird nears the gun.
Left-handed quartering incomers mirror these — pivoting leg to the breaking spot, soft focus close to the side the bird travels toward.
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